Karen Putz

Every time I have a massage with Julia--she provides an AMAZING experience. She has a gentle, but firm touch and her massage technique truly relaxes the muscles. Communication is a breeze--she's a Deaf massage therapist! 

Angie

I’m a firm believer that people walk into your life at the exact time they are supposed to. This couldn’t be any more true for meeting Cam last fall. At this point I had seen several medical professionals, chiropractors, and massage therapists. I was feeling extremely lost frustrated and living in chronic pain. 

Jen

Very Deaf friendly. So glad to have someone close to where I live that I can go frequently! Jules really take time to chat and figure out the best focus of the body to work on (reiki and massage)! I look forward to going back again and again for as long I can while she’s in town!

Jayne

There's a new massage therapist in town and by town I mean INDIANAPOLIS, IN.  This talented woman works all over the country so be sure to make an appointment while she's here!!    Recently my doctor suggested some lymph massage would be helpful as a scan showed nodes in the chest with high calcium deposits.  That prompted my first appointment with Julia Cameron Damon; I've been back twice.  Julia makes me feel so comfortable and welcome the moment I arrive. The peace of room itself helps me relax.   Before I get on the warmed table, Julia makes sure she knows exactly what I want and am comfortable with the oils, music, and incense options.  Julia's communication skills are perfect for both Deaf and hearing clients; she signs and speaks perfectly, even with a mask!    My 3rd massage was a full hour on just feet and calves with sacred oils.   I felt so relaxed that I fell asleep.   I trusted Julia's amazing intuition to know which oils were perfect for my needs.   I look forward to seeing her at least once a month and plan to try each of the various forms of massage she is trained in.  Her current office is on the  2nd floor of The Cottage, near Glendale Mall, east of Broad Ripple.  If stairs are an issue ask her about working in your home.   Also, for my hearing friends, pen & paper can facilitate communication, or use an app called OTTER that types what you say.  

Jessica

I enjoyed massage with Julia very much! I enjoyed deep-tissue massage and she does it great! It was very serenity and ahhh ooommm.... especially that she came to my house- the best thing! AND she is deaf! I do recommended her! 

inDie rose

So glad to have found an excellent masseuse who is Deaf like myself so there are no language barriers and Cam made me feel SO at ease beforehand, amazing during and refreshed after! Will definitely be utilizing her services for as long as possible. As a stylist, I stand on my feet for long hours and often need adjusting, I look forward to being on the table much more often now.  

Rachel Aster

I had opportunity to have Julia massage my full body. I found myself relaxed instantly once I went into the room. I felt comfortable and allow her to do her magic. Julia knew how use her body and weight putting on me while massaging, and the experience was on spot! I will go and have her do full body massage anytime we are in town and available! I am looking forward to experience other artistic fields of her expertise in future!

Eric Gugger

I just recently tried a massage from Cam for the first time last week. I have to say, she is amazing with what she does! I think it was the first time I've received a professional massage treatment and it was stellar! She pays very close attention to detail, truly wishes you nothing but the best in your session. I highly recommend her for anyone who wishes to have a very deep, calming and relaxing experience. She is thoughtful, intrinsic and a compassionate individual who truly cares about your own well-being and wants you to have a wonderful session. I'm delightful to have this excellent experience with her, especially with someone who is Deaf and can communicate! Thank you for letting me be a part of it!

ktquiet

In order to support the Deaf Ecosystem, I try to obtain services/visit Deaf-owned businesses whenever possible. Getting a massage from Cam was on my list and when I heard she was moving soon - I decided that I needed to do this sooner rather than later! So I contacted her through FB messenger and made an appointment the following week. I explained that I'm normally not a fan of massages due to a couple bad experiences, she was receptive to that and asked me to explain why so she could approach it differently. She also asked me about what I liked, what I didn't like, what was OK, what was not OK, etc. The best part was the direct communication in ASL as Cam is Deaf herself!

Result - one of the best massages I've ever had. I'll be back and I'll recommend others to go too. The fact her space was so warm and welcoming and groovy added an extra fun touch to the experience!

⛰

What a heaven massage!  I am so glad to have met you at a retreat in Massachusetts. She is so amazing and beautiful soul. I love her magic hands. I highly recommend a visit. 

Libby

i love julia’s massages! i always feel so relaxed afterwards. she can use her feet which is incredible and more gentle than you would expect. her space is calming and smells wonderful. i live in boulder and it’s very much worth it to drive out to longmont to see her! 

LaRonda Zupp

In October 2018, I had the pleasure of working with Julia Cameron Damon, known as "Cam", at a Mindful Heart Forest Retreat I facilitated in the Pacific Northwest for 11 Deaf adults. I invited Cam, a Certified Massage Therapist, on board to offer my retreat participants massages during their weekend of renewal. Cam put the "ahhhh" back into Fall! Her presence was gentle and welcoming. She took time with each of my attendees to get to know them and tune in to what they needed most. You could really tell she cared about each of us. Cam's hands are pure magic! Her Magical Mystery Massage Tour is aptly named. She has just the right presence, just the right selection of oils and scents, and just the right touch that really soothes the body as well as the soul. Personally, while I knew she was there the first few minutes of my own massage, she soon disappeared and I was only aware of "Spirit" between us. She had blended in to me and I in her. The massage was that magical! My retreat participants and I had such a positive and restorative experience, it left us all wanting more! Cam even offered each of my retreat participants a little token bag, with fresh sage from her home state of Colorado, tied in ribbons and given with love. More magic! I would not hesitate to refer people to Cam. She is a true professional as well as a beautiful spirit. She is able to communicate in ASL and her business is Deaffriendly! I will definitely work with Cam again! If there are other Deaf businesses that are looking for a contractor as part of your events, I highly recommend Cam. She is simply divine!

J.

Moonrise Acupuncture

Wow!!  Getting a massage with Cam is such an amazing experience! 

Imagine if the swirling cosmos could cradle you and care for you with oils and intuition. That is what a massage with Cam is like. 
  
She is a heart-centered, radiant and deeply caring person, and everything about her touch is welcoming and grounding.  She creates a healing environment and you can't help but feel body positive and unconditional love in her presence.  Her signing is warm and flowy, just like Cam. 

I cannot wait until I get another Cam massage!!

Mary

I was at a retreat when I had the opportunity to have a massage for the first time.  It was a wonderful experience.  Julia was communicative and made it comfortable for the massage.   It was so relaxing, and the muscles seems relaxed for a long time!

April B.

I had the honor of getting a massage at home! Julia was amazing! I love her technique which was slow and flow. I literally melted on the massage table. So relaxed. I believe everyone should get a massage at a regular schedule like a person goes to the dentist every 6 months. 

Chef Wagner

At a Mindful Heart Retreat by LaRonda Zupp, Cam Damon provided a massage service. What I had was a wonderful experience. Her hand does the magic and put me in a rest zone. Room set the tone to a calm and relaxed mood. Short and sweet. Her hand surely has me revitalized. I would do again at her business one day on my next trip. Do I recommend? Yes, in a heartbeat. Cam Damon was so personable and friendly. She welcomes you at ease.

PMallette

I’ve had a few massages from Julia. I remember that for my first one, I was only starting to learn sign language. She was welcoming and encouraging. Many months and many massages after that, it’s now fantastic to be able to have longer conversations with her. She is always very attentive to specific requests to adjust the massage and pressure level. She cares deeply about the wellbeing of everyone she meets. Her positive mindset will brighten your day. Her studio is also wonderful and relaxing, the perfect massage room. 

Anonymous User

Julia Cameron is a professional when it comes to providing a first class and luxurious massage service. She's very respectful and made sure that I was completely relaxed. I would definitely recommend her to anyone who are able to get her services when she comes to town. She travels a lot and visits cities to provide massages to numerous clients. My wife and I will definitely get her services again when she gets in town!

Melissa Elmira Yingst

Oh wow! Julia was an absolute pleasure to work with. The scenery of her massage room is perfectly cozy and smells so good. It was great to be able to chat with Julia via sign language discussing my back ailments and what I liked, which was the FIRST TIME I ever had the opportunity to do so!   The massage itself was very relaxing yet I could feel Julia working on my knots and tense areas.  The energy was positive and warm as well!  Thanks Julia! Highly recommend this experience.

Amorcito

This lady has a special touch. Her healing hands do magic. Her kindness, hospitality, compassion and dedication to the wellbeing of other is clear! She is a gem to the healing of this community. Thank you, Julia, YOU are the best!

Beatrice B

Cam is incredibly sweet and attentive. You can tell she is present with you and she is very honest about what she can offer you which I appreciate. She works hard to anticipate your needs before you say them and has such a wonderful spirit. I love how she can learn so much about you simply by touching you once. I look forward to getting more massages and bodywork done by her!

Julie

We had the honor of having Cam last week as part of her Magical Mystical Massage Tour in Columbus, Ohio. We had the honor of having her staying at our house. The energy was positive and vibrating with people coming for an appointment with her. It was so nice to have a direct communication in ASL with a massager, especially talking about body energy work! She was very communicative and thoughtful prior coming to our house to make sure we all are set up for her. She is one talented massager! 

Karen Putz

Julia is one of the BEST massage therapists I've ever experienced. She has the magic touch--one that heals, soothes, and relaxes. I highly recommend her. 

Deaf Mountain Yoga

Cam is an amazing massage therapist. She has a great understanding of the body and knows exactly how to make you feel better. Cam exudes an amazing vibration that just makes you feel at ease. My massage from Cam was the best I've ever had! Yay for Deaf Massage Therapists!

Lightworker Jac

Cam is an amazing soul. Amazing isn't even enough to describe her. I saw her for a massage one lovely Saturday evening and it was pure bliss. I gave her the freedom to read my body and she was attentive to my body's needs and her touch was magical. 

Just being with her and her spirit is loving. Gratitude for the gift of time together.

Irina

Tamara C

I am a hearing person who has been acquainted with Julia since high school, but had never experienced her massage before.  While she was traveling in my hometown, we arranged for her to come to my home for a massage session.  I was so happy to re-connect with Julia, and although there was a little concern on my part about whether we would be able to communicate well, there was no problem at all.  It was much easier to tell her about where my sensitivities are, in regards to back and muscle pain, than I had anticipated.  The massage itself was heavenly, and the in-home service was so lovely, so convenient, that I wish Julia lived locally--I'd be constantly scheduling massages!  I would recommend Julia Cameron's Magical Mystical Massage Tour to anyone interested in a complete massage experience by a professional with knowledge and skill.

Jules

I loved Cam! Super bonus that she's deaf and is ASL fluent! I always like to support a deaf business and it was well worth my every penny. She did an amazing job massaging me for one hour. She made sure I felt comfortable and open. It was an entire experience in itself. I strongly recommend her!!!

drlynnjaco

Julia's feet massage is awesome!! I highly recommend her for any who needs deep tissue massage.  I hope to visit her massage parlor with poles on the ceiling so she can walk on me (Rolfing).  Blessed her skills!!

Shea

Relieved and relaxed are the words to describe the feeling after the massage! I loved her studio/massage room along with the energy and spirit that Julia had. Truly a magical and mystical experience :) I would come back, thanks once again~~

Brian C.

I had the pleasure of having to see Julia to give me a much needed massage. With my back pain and stress, she made me feel relaxed and comfortable, it was most relaxing 1 hour I've spent and worth every dollar. She will greet you with an open mind with welcoming spirit with relaxing environment and you will feel safe and comfortable with yourself in and out. I will definitely see her again when she visits L.A. Don't miss out on booking an appointment if she is in your hometown. Doesn't matter if you are Deaf or Hearing. 

tzornoza

She's amazing and very generous with massage. She also reminded me to remember to take care of my body, mind, and soul. I would highly recommend you to have more than one time massage with her because I would if I live in the same town as her.

Arnie

I meant to post this a while ago after visiting Cam for my first massage a month ago. My wife kept telling me what a great masseuse she was but I have a thing about strangers touching me. I am so glad I got over that and finally went to see Cam. I am Hooked, I will not try any other masseuse and will only go to Cam from now on. I actually fell asleep during my massage because I was so relaxed and when she woke me up and said I was done I just felt so relaxed and stress-free. Please give her a try if you're in doubt about trying out a masseuse for the first time you will not regret it.

Anonymous User

A super skilled massage therapist that is also Deaf and ASL fluent was just the thing that I needed. When I was able to communicate effectively without struggles, it put my mind to ease and truly allowed me to relax, just as a massage should be. im a new found fan! 

LilBitofEvbyMandy

I had met Julia 4 years ago on FB through a mutual friend and when she told me she was coming to MY beautiful Pacific Northwest..I signed up for a massage asap.  We planned it a few weeks earlier..but the day of..I spaced..and she was so sweet to remind me and even worked me to get in later.  I came in full of stress..and once Julia started on me..I literally cried..and felt it all melt away..then I fell asleep..I had not slept in weeks and it was just the release I needed.  I felt so safe..and even loved.  Thanks Julia for giving me one of the most amazing theraputic massage I have ever had.

Jer

I have heard of her name and raving reviews from friends... and I have never had a Deaf masseur. Julia have been exceeding my expectations and I trusted her completely that I got detached myself couple of times. If I had the choice, I'd live near where she lives! If you ever see the notice of her next massage tour, grab the chance while you can!

Bobby

Rachel

Cam is truly a CHAMP.    I have been to other massage therapists over the years and no one is as wonderful as she is!!  The name of her business is a perfect description of how we experience her massages.  Her touch is simply magical...the rhythm, the flow, the way she moves her hands and arms---oh my my!  Unbelievable!   It also is wonderful to be able to communicate with Cam easily in ASL.  It makes the whole experience an amazing one.  Wish she lives in the metro Denver area, I would go to her a lot more often for sure!

Leah

Julia is unbelievable! An amazing massage therapist. She has a beautiful soul, that she made me feel very comfortable. After telling her what problems I had, (scianta nerve in my lower spine) and my recurring nerve pinch in my right shoulder, she treated it with massage. After that, I felt so relaxed. I felt wonderful and have more flexibility with my back. So happy! Thank you Cam!!! Definitely come back to you! 

Pia Marie

My friends raved about Cam, and I just had to check her out for myself-- and I was IMPRESSED. I have super tight muscles after years of sports, and I haven't had a massage experience quite like hers before. 

Many other therapists would just skim over problem areas, or focus terribly on THE area while neglecting the other parts of my body that needed attention. With Cam, she knew just what I needed, and focused not only on my messed up back, but also on other parts of my body that all contributed to a healthy, relaxing experience. 

And the fact Cam is Deaf, and signs-- AMAAAAZING! I was able to tell her exactly what I needed, how I liked it, if I was hot or cool, and all the other things that make a massage experience great. 

Hands down the best massage I've ever received!

Melinda

Julia Cameron is amazing massage therapist.  She has knowledgeable about muscles, mind, and body works!  I deeply enjoy her deep work from bottom of feet to top of head. Worthy to have her to do for you!  Plus she is great person to chat with! Thank you, Julia! 

Melinda  

Ryder

Julia's space is amazing!  Her space is clean and professional, and makes you feel good with her unique decor and wonderful smells as you enter.  Julia does amazing deep tissue work, which is a part of Ashiatsu Oriental Bar therapy.  

I so enjoy deep work and Julia was knowledgeable about which muscles to focus on and with care.  

Having Julia work on you is a real treat!  My review comes from a trained and licensed masseuse perspective, you know that will be indeed true! 

Jennifer W

Julia (Cam), is an artist in every sense of the word. She listens with her hands and heart and finds her way into an incredible, rhythmic flow, as if creating a painting or unique piece of art. What was so interesting to me (and different than most other massages I had ever received) was that there was no set pattern to what cam did... Instead she allowed herself to be led and created what felt like a masterpiece. Thanks so much, Cam! 
*I found myself in a place between wakefulness and sleep... which is where the spiritual and emotional MAGIC happens. Please come back to New York soon! We are awaiting your magic.

Bellamie

I had Julia Cameron's magical massage for my birthday and it was an hour and half of pure bliss! I felt completely pampered from the first moment to the end. What I loved the most is that we can converse easily in ASL about which kind of massages and aromatherapeutic oils will make the best fit for my needs. And she went beyond my expectations! Whenever I happen to be in the area again in the future, I will definitely book one of her champ massages!

Michelle

I have had massages in Honolulu, and Rochester... this is the best massage ever.  The atmosphere was just right along with the scent.  She is very warming, caring, and open.  Julia welcomed me, which made me totally relaxed after being so tensed and stressed with personal life... I was able to disconnect and enjoy the massage.  Julia knows her stuff, making sure you are comfortable and able to recognize what your body needs which she felt the tightness/pain in my muscle which I have had a long burden, long suffering, pain with my personal life which was estimate about three years and she was right.  Its amazing how you can tell by a person's body and its muscle without knowing a person deeply.  After the massage, I cried because the truth as came out and gave me the courage to move forward with my life.  I look forward flying back to Colorado and get another massage from Julia and this time should be more free this time as not to have any more burden. She's a blessing and I would go to her regularly if I was in town!  I highly recommend Julia. 

Grego

Cam is AMAZING!  I've had several massages from her and she is my #1 go-to Deaf-friendly person!

What makes her so amazing is her empathy.  She connects with you, she glows with you.  And when you're on the massage table, she feels your energy and knows where to go to heal you.  This is a woman with a gift that all of us, Deaf and hearing, could really benefit from.  Much, much, much love to Cam!

Avi

Cam is soo wonderful! She is Deaf herself and uses ASL, which is a huge plus for someone like me who was initially very nervous about massage (felt like it was a very intimate thing for me). She communicated all information clearly and in a very gentle and respectful manner so I knew what to expect. Her studio is gorgeous, her dog is beyond adorable, and her massage -- I have no words. When she massages my arms for some reason her technique always sends this amazing, radiating pins-and-needles (for lack of a better way to describe it) sensation. It's so relaxing. She is beyond talented at what she does, and I would go see her every month if I could! I love her, and will always be back :)

Albert, III

AWESOME! It was my first time with her. I felt so comfortable and it was very relaxing at her massage studio. She have a beautiful and friendly dog! I definitely will go back to get much more massage from her! I felt like rebirth after getting a massage from her. A talent massager and use sign language, how can it be better than that? Try her!!!! Thank you!

Douglas

I thought I had experienced therapeutic massage before.  NONE of them even came close to the relief I received after having Cameron work on me.  The benefits were not only outstanding but lasted for a much longer extended period of time than other massage therapists'.  I highly recommend her work.  I see no other therapist now since I've found the best! 

Rachella

If you are looking to be transformed into a Divine being, then look no further upon stepping into the quaint office of Julia Cameron's Magical Massage Tour. I have had massages in the past but when I had two from this beautiful Goddess, I must say I am spoiled and cannot imagine a massage from anyone else but her. Julia is intuitive and knows how to adjust the pressure during the massage to your needs and liking. She will be attentive when you describe what knots and pains ail you and get  busily to work when you lie down before her. I had never received a massage service that involved feet and at first was skeptical but curious. I am glad I took the risk because I felt so aligned and Divine when she completed this magic upon me. I highly recommend her to all people from all walks of life, she will transform you anew and leave you with a love of life intact when she has completed her magical massage spell upon your body. The Goddess has surely sent her to this Earth to heal and that's exactly what services she provides; magical healing. You won't be disappointed! Blessed be! 

aslmentor

Being a male and one very attuned with my body- I am very picky when it comes to massages.  I used to have a few "in training" practice on me when I used to work in Boulder for 13 years.  I would then give them feedback on how to improve to help them graduate from the Massage college in Boulder.  This just shows that I have been exposed to many masseurs as well as going to a few parlors.  
When I went to Julia's Magical Mystical place- I immediately felt like it was a place my mind and soul could relax.  Julia's a master at her technique after hours and hours, days and days if not months of her time invested in what she love doing.  This is the key here.  Julia loves what she is doing and it transfers over to your body.
I would not hesitate to use her again.  

Nicki Runge

I went there for massage with Julia (Cam) and she is AWESOME and HONEST. Plus easy communication access since she is deaf just like I am and I felt good connect with her. I would go there again for sure!

Tori

Massages are easily my favorite forms of self-care and relaxation, and I have been to many massage therapists all over the country.  I can be quite picky, but can confidently say that Cam is one of the best by far!  Her technique is phenomenal, and I always leave her table feeling relaxed and rejuvenated.  

More than that, she is an amazing person and communicator.  As I'm hard-of-hearing, she gives me the choice of whether or not I wanted to listen to any music.  I've never been to any other massage therapist who has asked me that, and sometimes music doesn't feel relaxing to me.  She allows each client to select the perfect massage oil scent for their mood/needs, and explains what properties each one offers.  She taught me a few easy signs to let her know when I wanted more pressure or less, etc.  It's so nice to sign with my massage therapist!  

All around, I have nothing even slightly negative to say about Cam!  I wish I could give her 10 stars!!

Crys

Deaf. Signs. Cam is wonderful. I've had massages from her twice and both were divine. 

Elsie

I visited her several times and each visit was truly wonderful! My only wish is that she lived closer to me! :)

GeekAngel

Brian Berry-Berlinski

In the lush tropical paradise setting of Maui, Hawaii, I received a most amazing gift from the universe, in the form of Julia Cameron Damon's magical massage.  Cam quickly identified where I held my stress in my body.  My stress was built up from months and months of wedding planning, and I just had to let it go.  She helped me release all the tension from my muscles and joints so that I could greet my wedding day with a smile and a deep feeling of peace in my body!  Cam has the ability to work wonders with anybody -- Deaf, Deafblind, hearing, hard of hearing, all genders included.  I highly recommend her for her specialized knowledge in deep tissue, Swedish, and many other forms of massage.

Deb

Cam is amazing. Not only do I got to her for management of my migraines, I also go to her so my body can feel great! I've had migraines for years and Cam knows exactly what to do to relieve them for me. She is simply AMAZING and her fingers are absolutely magic! Cam is a long drive for me (40 minutes) but she is worth every single mile. Seriously, her magic touch is priceless. She makes you feel so comfortable the minute you see her. I am so thankful I have found her as she is  the ONLY massage therapist I will go to. Extremely professional but in a comfortable, relaxing atmosphere. I really feel like I have been whisked away.  Warning about her 2 hours massages....I need to bring a driver because I am so super relaxed I don't want to pay attention to anything except the calming state I am experiencing when I leave. This can also be achieved with her 1 hour massage, but I highly recommend treating yourself to a 2 hour massage! You will never regret it! Go see Cam now! Go ahead....book her....right now!  All you have to loose is your stress and tight muscles!!! Yes, she is THAT fabulous!!!!!

Ken Arcia

It's always wonderful to find / experience BLISS! I've experienced the soothing, yet strong, hands of Cam on several occasions. A few while she was traveling near me in California and a couple of times at her calming, scented studio in Longmont. She always seems to "connect" effortlessly with my body and slowly eradicates the stresses and knots that I develop. She keeps in sync with you and knows how much pressure you need and is in constant check to make sure you are both on the same page. I also love that we can communicate so effortlessly in ASL. Keep up the awesome enjoyable work, Cam! Looking forward to my next massage!

Anonymous User

It's a rare privilege as a Deaf consumer to receive clear communication access with professionals. Cam Damon who is deaf and fluent in sign language is located in my hometown, Longmont, CO - 30 mins from Boulder and 45 minutes from Denver. It's refreshing not having to write back and forth to communicate my goals. 
Cam's massage studio is beautifully decorated in deep colorful warm colors with artistically harmonious decoration. There is a shift when you walk in - you are automatically geared for some amazing healing adventure.  
Her massage table has a wonderful heating pad, great for clients with Fibromyalgia, and lots of warm blankets for winter seasons, so I'm always warm no matter what.  There are an array of un/scented oils to choose from and for those who are hard of hearing or hearing - music to pick out too for added pleasure. 
I was honestly surprised that I actually fell asleep during one of her massages, something that I rarely ever do - her fingers are like butter --- glides wonderfully. Cam is willing to listen and learn what I will need specifically due to FMS related trigger points. 
I'm looking forward to the next appointment for reflexology (feet massage to enhance meridian points) as I've been having a lot of feet pain lately.  
Support your local Deaf businesses - there's one right in Longmont, CO - a quaint town-like city. 

Rachel Berman

I simply love Cam and her work! Her work lives up to the name.  I've had about 3-4 massages with Cam, including a personal one in the outdoors, and the recent one was at her lovely, mystical studio. I love her spirit and her hands that work my body, and I always leave feeling refreshed. Her studio is so colorful and relaxing (homey) and I love that she has a collection of oils and lotions and lets me smell and choice them. The only downside is that she lives too far from me! If she was closer, I would become her frequent client. 

She has the gift of making you very comfortable and feeling at ease during the massage. She is also flexible with the intensity of the massage and how deep you want to go. My favorite part is when she uses her feet to massage my back (Ashiatsu massage). Highly recommend her! :D

The bonus is that she's Deaf and uses ASL! So the worry factor about communicating about my body is removed. You can text to make appointments, and she does have a VP if you need to call her.